How to Buy a Couch

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Last week, in my monthly goals post, I discussed my desire to buy a couch. It’s by no means a certainty, but I’m interested enough to visit some stores.

Why I Don’t Want to Buy a Couch Used

When I first considered buying a couch, at the beginning of July, I assumed it’d be vastly cheaper to buy a couch used. Thus I watched Kijiji for several weeks. Yes, it would probably cost much less to buy a couch used. It could also cost me a lot of wasted time, money, or both.

For starters, I want a leather, reclining couch (more on my criteria in the next section). There’s not a lot of these specific couches available in the local classifieds.

I’m no couch expert. That means I have asymmetrical information. I wouldn’t be able to definitively tell if a used couch was bonded leather or top-grain leather. If I buy a couch new, I can ask a salesperson at The Brick or Leon’s and get a definitive, legally-binding answer (so long as it’s written on the bill of sale). This isn’t feasible if I want to buy a couch used. The brand is clearly advertised on a new couch making it easy to seek consumer reviews. It might be evident on a used couch if the owner hasn’t removed the tag — then again I didn’t get a lot of responses when I asked sellers this question on Kijiji. If these used sellers are honest, then used couches on Kijiji are disproportionately upholstered in fine Italian leather. In short, if I bought used, the risk is greater that I’ll pay too much or get a poor quality piece of furniture.

Further, I’ve noticed that the Kijiji sellers are, in general, asking way too much for their couches. Some people are asking for 90% of retail value because they “only purchased the sofa last year”. They’ve got no concept of depreciation (sorry you bought it and it doesn’t fit your house’s “style”. Pay your stupid tax and move on). Others are asking for $300 for a couch with worn, stained or otherwise damaged leather. In general, a used couch is a bulky, difficult-to-dispose piece of furniture — in short, a used couch is a liability. If the leather is ruined, then it’s not worth anymore than a fabric-upholstered couch. That is, it’s not worth more than it would cost to have somebody take it away. If you need to get rid of it quickly then, yet again, pay your stupid tax for letting your kids/cats/domesticated fox play on the couch and just give it away to the first person who can pick it up.

I also know that, if I buy a couch at The Brick or Leon’s, I’m less likely to bring home a bug infestation. ‘Nuff said.

My Six Criteria (Or, “How to Buy a Couch That Doesn’t Suck”)

After much research, I’ve determined that I want a couch with the following six attributes:

  1. Sofa (length of at least 80″ and no more than 96″, with seating deep enough to be generously comfortable when I sit on it)
  2. Reclining (this negates a sofa bed); two recliners or three is fine, but obviously a fixed seat in the center should command a lower price
  3. Top-grain leather on all cushions, back rests, and arm rests (note that bonded leather or vinyl is OK, but only for non-seating parts of the couch)
  4. Cushions and pads are detachable and/or have zippers (prefer both) to make moving, re-stuffing, maintenance, and cleaning easier
  5. Suspension system is 8-way, S System, or another extremely sturdy design
  6. Foam is high-resiliency with a density of 2.0 (or higher) to ensure longevity and comfort

From Whom Shall I Buy a Couch?

I’d send out a Request-for-Tenders but my partner thinks I wouldn’t get many responses. In the next week or two, I’m going to drop by the following stores to find their least expensive couch that meets my above criteria:

  1. Leon’s (large national retailer)
  2. United Furniture Warehouse (small national retailer owned by The Brick)
  3. Bennett’s Home Furnishings (local retailer) – they’re expensive but really good quality. They’re right beside United Furniture Warehouse so I might drop in.
  4. The Brick (large national retailer)
  5. Clearing House Outlet (small regional retailer)

I’d go to Sears but, after reviewing their offerings online, I’ve determined they’re just so stupid-expensive that I’m not going to bother. I’d also visit Jysk (they have an amazing loft bed/workstation that I can’t wait to buy for Holly), but their couches are all short, faux-leather affairs. There’s no Ikea in my area, but I think they’re over-rated anyway.

Some Initial Research and Negotiating Room

I’ve looked online for a “baseline” couch that I’d find acceptable based on my criteria. I’ve found a few examples, some of which are cheaper than the one I’m about to give. It’s a good example, however, because the couch meets all of my criteria (e.g. S system support) and presents some easy negotiation strategies.

Buy a Couch

The Luke sofa is available from both The Brick and United Furniture Warehouse for $1499.97.

  • The fact that it’s the same price at two stores means there’s an opportunity for a price matching discount (even though they’re owned by the same parent, UFW should be willing to undercut The Brick or their entire “low cost” business model is a lie).
  • Right now it’s available at The Brick for $749.97 — if you purchase the matching love seat or chair. That gives me another great negotiation strategy. How so? The Brick is obviously not going to sell the Luke sofa below cost even if a customer already bought a love seat or chair (why would they give away profit?).
  • Based on my own research, I’d estimate that the couch costs The Brick (including sales commission and transportation) about $500 to $600. What research? Well, The Brick’s gross margin (revenue minus the cost of goods sold, not including any apportionment of fixed costs) was 45.2% in 2011. This margin is after any sales commission, negotiation with customers, and incorporates the thinner margin on appliances. I’d estimate that the gross margin on the full MSRP for the couch is anywhere from 60 to 70%.
  • I’ll be willing to tack on another $50 for delivery (since I’m not buying two products from them) and pay the HST, which would bring the initial cost ($749.97) to about $903.
  • If the salesperson is hesitant, I can offer to pay with cash rather than credit card (since they pay a 1 or 2% fee to my credit card issuer).
  • If neither the salesperson nor the manager at The Brick (and then at UFW) decides to bite, I’ll just return on a Monday or Tuesday closer to the end of the month, when they’re hungrier to improve their monthly sales figure.
  • Finally, if none of that works, I’ll contact the Commercial Sales Division at The Brick and try my luck.

It’s reasonable to expect that I should be able to get everything I want, including taxes, for under $1000. If not, I just won’t buy a couch. The ability to walk away truly is the best negotiation tool.

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15 Comments… Share your views

  1. Years ago I owned a 9 foot orange leather sofa. It was the most comfortable thing ever. Then marriage happened, and some sense of taste/style entered the picture and the couch had to go. So I dumped it on the curb in front of our house with a ‘free’ poster taped to it.

    At lunch time I looked out the window, and it was gone! Someone had actually taken the orange monstrousity!

    Unfortunately I looked out a couple of hours later and it was back! Someone had taken it home, then brought it back.

  2. Wow! I don’t think this much planning went even into our decision to have a kid! Just kidding ;)

    I’ve been on both sides of this. Bought a year-old (micro-fiber) sectional off Kijiji for about 50% less than retail, but also bought a leather couch brand new (at Sears, oops!). Actually, the latter was a wedding/house-warming present from the in-laws, so I suppose it doesn’t count. I did learn to look for the grainy type of leather – sorry, I don’t know my terminology here – because my parents had the super smooth, shiny type before and it wore very poorly, with massive peeling after a few years. I’ve never seen the grainy type of leather at IKEA, so I’m not sure on their overall quality … although, I totally love IKEA generally, and think many of their pieces are well-designed/built. We have a pull-out sofa that’s been in the family for over 10 years and is still going strong.

    And yes, we’re a 3-sofa family ;)

    • If money was no object, I would go straight to Sears. Actually, I might even go to The Bay or a specialty leather furniture store. Sears will stand behind what it sells you from what I’ve heard. But obviously there’s a price to that, and it’s just vastly much too high for me considering most furniture has a warranty and you can double it with intelligent credit card use.

      I’m surprised Ikea offers real leather. That couch may have been a bonded or ‘split’ leather. Although that’s not to denigrate the longevity of leather substitutes. I tried out some La-Z-Boy “blended leather” sofas and, to my unskilled eye and touch, I couldn’t tell the difference. Knowing La-Z-Boy, they wouldn’t put something out there if it wouldn’t last.

      But good warning re: shiny/smooth leather; if it’s good quality genuine leather you should definitely expect to see a grain. As a point of personal preference, I definitely prefer a ‘matte’ finish. Really shiny leather reminds me of George Costanza wearing his Gore-tex coat.

  3. Reclining couches are awesome! Although if you plan on having multiple kids I would recommend getting one with three recliners as there will surely be civil war raging among your future kids over who gets to sit in the reclining seats if there’s only two of them. Trust me on this.

    • lol “The Great Couch Spot Battle of 2020 actually dragged out for over a decade with many decisive victories and loses.”

      I suppose it wouldn’t be morally/socially acceptable to pick a favorite child each day and make the others sit on the floor? Maybe I should get a reclining love seat, so there’s no debate as to who gets to sit on the couch? hahah.

  4. Yes, I think you should buy a couch. No, I don’t think it would be leather or recline. Why?

    1. Cheaper obviously.
    2. When it goes out of fashion you can just have new fabric put on.
    3. Just as easy to clean as leather if you have the right tools.
    4. If/when your kids ruin it, they aren’t devaluing it as much as if it were leather.
    5. You have a little baby. When she starts crawling all over you don’t want her sneaking under the recliner part.
    6. I’ve never heard of a recliner that the cushions come out or zip out of.
    7. In the summer when you are wearing shorts your legs are gonna sweat and stick to it unless you are keeping that room really cool.

    Just some things to think about. I actually think you are pretty well prepared. And good call Jack about fighting over the reclining seats. Although growing up my family had a normal couch and we still fought about who sat where. lol

    • All good points. Re: 6 – you’re right but I was thinking of a non-reclining leather couch when I first started the article and never thought to edit it.

      You’re right that a fabric one would be way cheaper. I’m sure I could get a decent one on Kijiji for like $100 if I was willing to pick it up. Leather couches are so awesome though!

  5. I actually just went through the same thought process, and ended up buying from the USA. I got this sweet reclining, black, microfiber sectional down there, and I even get the USA taxes back since North Dakota has a nice little program available.

    http://www.slumberland.com/furniture/products/grand-collection—onyx-sectional__pstl169

    Exactly what I wanted for a great price.

    • Nice. Yeah, I’m so tempted just to buy in the States. I stopped by The Brick and their salespeople (1) knew nothing about their products and (2) clearly had no interest in negotiating. Not that I expected much from a furniture salesperson, but even I was disappointed by their incompetence. I’m asking him questions about the couch and he goes “So when did you want this couch?” And I’m like “Dude, you do know that’s the worst sales tactic ever, right?” And he goes “I’ll be over there if you have any more questions.” lol a salesperson literally abandoned me in an empty store. And I’m probably the only person who was willing to come in, spend 10 minutes, and give him $1,000 cash if he answered questions and gave me an actual deal.

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